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been done in that type of environment before, in a web environment. there are a lot of people that depend on water for drinking and other uses. >> why are you concerned and what is va rate -- uranium, what is this company? >> this company was founded by the owner of this uranium deposit in pennsylvania county. there has been some corporate structure changes recently -- i cannot really describe exactly everything that has been going on. virginia uranium is mostly owned by canadian companies that have some familiarity with uranium processing and mining. no one in virginia does because it has never been done before. >> you're concerned exactly, the effect that it would have? >> what would happen, if uranium is mined, especially processed in virginia, there is a huge amount of waste generated. when the uranium yellowcake is taken and marketed, at 85% of their real activity remains in the waste products. those products are just buried in facilities very much like the one that we story municipal solid waste, hole in the ground, plastic liner, filling it up with this toxic waste, cov
environment saying it's challenging and reported a drop in its first half net profit. it was really dragged down by some sluggish sales numbers. it's got a cost of one billion pounds. the company trying to fix its domestic operations, investing in stores, people and products. the online department has been a huge push. the contrast has been -- you can see the varying performances of these two stocks in the trading session today. its numberns coming in fairly well. this is the third biggest supermarket chain here in the uk. take a look at the spike in the airline. it's certainly making some strong inroads out there. raised its profit guidance. it's also reported a boost in strong demand from some of the european beach roots from london, so it's been using the flights to fly into some of those little nations. it seems as though the pursestrings for holiday travelers has certainly being loosened a little bit. let's take a look at what's playing out on debt markets today across the charts. you see prices are moving high. we're still seeing below the 1.5% level. the constant question mark surrou
stress. having firearms injected into that environment is not healthy. there is also a lot of dissenting views on campus. all political spectrum represented on campus for some their opinions on many different issues. having firearms present in those kinds of discussions is also, i think, potentially volatile. >> your own personal concerns about, for example, grading students? >> i connect with my students on i a pretty deep level, i think, not only in lecture, but also when i pass on their grading exams. sometimes, a failing grade that i may have to issue as part of my duty as a professor could be the final failing grade that pushes them out of the diversity. that has a potentially big impact on their life, and that is a potential for some rational behavior. after all, they are human beings. i would not a fought -- want a firearm in my own pocket throughout my daily experiences, and i do not believe human being should be trusted to behave appropriately with a firearm circumstances. >> last i was giving a talk at the university church in boulder. a woman had come up to me and said, are yo
: it will be a town hall setting and that is a different environment and questioning coming from the audience. brian excellent point to bring up. i was thinking that this morning and how many people watch the debate. that was a concern that i had . had people been energized to care and listen to the differences between the two cand des. two find out more people watched the debate since 1992 was heartening. the idea that that many people wanted to come to the tv and see what was going on in the nation was heartening. >> steve: pat buchan an said it was the best one in 52 years. but pat going back to the kennedy/nixon debate. >> gretchen: people on the democratic side tried to come up with excuses. this may be the best one. former vice-president al gore said it had to do with something that goes on in the state of colorado when you get high up in the rocky mountains, could it be the altitude. >> obama areiched in denver at 2:00 p.m. today. just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet. >> exactly. >> and you only have a few hours to adjust.
. >> there will be a lot of focus on the issues. the environment of these two candidates come together after really negative attacks, these two candidates not have much of a personal history. they have met less than five times in history. -- in person. this summer has been, as everyone knows, i am sure, a lot of at going after personal attributes. ronnie's well, his career at bain capital, and on the flip side, the obama campaign has been upset about romney not shushing supporters to question whether barack obama was born in the united states. recently, this debate over the attack in libya. romney came out and suggested that obama was sympathetic with those who attacked the embassy there. so there is all this bitterness. they're coming in with it. both men have been coached to not let that come through. mitt romney specifically, rob portman has been told to push his buttons and teach romney how not to be testy and attack obama tonight. he wants to come off as likable. >> when did you arrive in denver? how heavy spent the day today? what have you seen? >> i arrived monday. the first thing i did was
. >> an east bay school shows a little goes a long way to help the environment. see why they are cbs 5's first cool school. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, beep-bop-boop-bop boop-beep. [monotone] she says, "switch to progressive and you could save hundreds." call or click today. bombings in aleppo. a syrian government official says at least 31 people have been killed... and scores of le wounded. the >>> more deadly violence? syria. a syrian government official said at least 31 people have been killed in aleppo and scores of others wounded. the explosives went off in a main square. aleppo has seen intensified fighting lately between president assad's regime and the rebels trying to oust him. >>> two republican lawmakers claim state department officials in libya had requested tighter security before the deadly attacks on the consulate in benghazi. california congressman darrell eye sa and jason chavez of utah say they got their information directly from sources with knowledge of the events in libya. secretary of state hillary clinton is forming a committee to investigate the attacks. >>> 6:15 now. federa
. this is because we are in a very different work environment where technology is making all their jobs outdated faster and wonderfully spinning of the new jobs but they require more education. i just think that if we're going to -- by the way, i think america has a huge advantage in this world. the world will really be divided between high imagination and low imagination countries. we have the highest imagination- enabling country. if you just have the spark of an idea of, they will get you cheap chinese manufacturing. jeff ebzos will do your delivery. craigslist for your accountant. there's no country who does this matter. the problem with this is that in the days when ford will come to your town with a 25,000 person factory is over. it is now 2500 people and a robot. in that world, generating 12 million more jobs. whatever timeframe he is talking about, maybe it's possible only if we once again get everyone starting something. what worries me about romney -- they can make any projection they want, but i think we really need to rethink workplace indication and how to become a truly start a cou
not think we should make a -- divert attention to try to confront it in an external environment. continuing to engage, having areas of cooperation in energy, the development of a massive nuclear civil energy programs. we are already cooperating with the chinese. keep our markets open. but do not create a more hostile environment that is essential. is is important we keep a balance in the region. there is a line between balancing provocation and we want to stay on the side of balance and a constructive environment. >> i was surprised to hear you say that the comments made by both candidates, you used the term deplorable. i know you have endorsed mitt romney. have you had that conversation with him? abbey said i find your comments deplorable? -- have you said i find your comments deplorable? [laughter] >> i see these advertisements for the candidates are debating with each other on how to deal with the cheating of china. both used the word cheat. it may be that in china they do not understand and i am bothered by the fact that appealing to china -- it does not affect my feeling of the canada.
environment that makes it impossible to govern, that makes it impossible to bring people together because they make campaign commitments right away in a campaign environment in a polarized environment. governor romney wants to be elected president because he wants to govern and get things done. he did that in massachusetts. he was able to work with a democratic legislature -- 87% of the state house and state senate in massachusetts, when he was the republican governor, were democrats. and yet they were able to cut taxes 19 times and get things done. they improved the bond rating for the state of massachusetts, by the way. they got an upgrade. we've seen a downgrade in the united states. they saw household incomes go up under governor romney's time in office by $5,000. household incomes have gone down by $4,300 under president obama. unemployment went down to 5.6% under governor romney in massachusetts. it's gone up to above 8% under president obama. he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, a
in this environment. one more point*. >> we had this discussion before the. >> in order to reduce the deficit there have to be revenue in addition to cut. >> mitt romney has ruled out revenue. >> absolutely. neil: okay. i think the gist of that was how to get the deficit under control in have to have a mix of spending cuts and tax increases. and what about the president in a mitt romney to some ratio? and that it would not cut it for him. i don't think he scored. i think romney clearly one. he does need to provide more specifics, but i think he was in command. he made a couple of statements that need to be clarified. and he does not want more revenue but he wasn't true growth not taxes. what do you define as more revenue? as compared to current gdp your under current law? we are under much higher levels than before. to thing surprised me. obama's said social security doesn't have a problem. it needs tweeting. it is underfunded $8 trillion and he also said his idea was not that different than governor romney's. especially since the president has not said much but when the president compared hi
natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. that leads back from the exchange and she has a spicy loser for us. nicole: we are looking at jacoby mexican grill? we have seen this stock off sharply today. david einhorn reiterated his discontent with green mountain coffee. we talked a lot about that. he is doing that -- a couple reasons. talking about rising food prices and reasons to short according to david einhorn. rising food prices increase the employee health costs and last but not least the point he made is in a conference today talking about competition from taco bell. these are the reasons at this time and why we are seeing the stock up 6%. dow and the s&p with down arrows
comings of the contemporary media environment is while debates are supposed to be occasions where candidates thrash out matters of consequence thoughtfully and in detail the outcomes are often judged by snippets that are more about personal character than issues or problems. and i'm curious to know is it just that we talk about the moments, write about the moments, rerun the moments, but that people 40 are actually watching the debate trying to figure out who to vote for the moments don't resonate with them? >> i actually don't agree with that. i do think there are -- look, there are times where we genuflect over something that happens in a debate or on the campaign trail that might not matter a lot. but look, like for example in the primary you won't be surprised to hear me say this, i thought the $10,000 bet moment spoke to who mitt romney is. it spoke to what his, you know, what his life is like. it spoke to, you know, a lot of things about mitt romney. how out of touch he is. so i think -- and people really focused on that for a week after that debate. so i think there are mom
-50 environment. >> that's right. >> half of the country is supporting the other half of the country. is that who we want to be? >> liberalism had an impatience and hostility to the american congressional system, the olderaxoms and principles of the american public. that is a polar working its way out. we are seeing living hosstillity with the constitution and still the legal constitution. it is hard to bridge a gap that is a century old and has been certainly for the past generation deepening. >> which way are we going. i think conservatives is the horse to bet on in the long run but interesting to see what will happen to liberalism. >> president obama and mitt romney getting ready for the first presidential debate. and i wonder if there are butter flies. what is going on behind the scenes. heather has a sneak peek. sex offenders suing for the right to hand out halloween canny? they say it is a freedom of speech issue for them. is it? we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ >> steve: got quick headlines for you this wednesday morning. american airline is padly install would clamps for the loose seats on th
of people in the low interest rate environment, investors are looking and buying up a lot of these homes, looking at that as a way to get yield in here. so not only is it helping stock, it's helping the housing market and that's that wealth effect people are talking about. these are the two areas bernanke knows are vital to how people feel and the confidence factor. >> but this is cart before the horse economics. the stock market is supposed to go up because the economy is going up. and when you push the stock market up artificially and hope the economy will come behind it, i think that's very dangerous. i'm very uncomfortable where that. i liked the stock market more before i saw the fed in there as a cheerleader. when the fed's doing something you kind of have to look at the other side of risk and now i'm getting worried that the fed is doing this. >> you could careless why it's going up. >> from a valuation standpoint, we're certainly getting ac litte stretched. 14 1450 was our number and we're essentially there. you look at the economy, housing is certainly working. autos is search w
to talk about the idea that government should be smaller and get out of the way. and an environment that is favorable for business is actually an environment where business will create jobs. how that's going to go over? >> it won't go over well, he hasn't had a real plan so far. these are about real people's lives. he's got a tougher job i think than the president tonight. because most people because of his comments whether he realizes it or not, he's lived a privileged life. and he doesn't understand common workers, what we go through every day. so he's got a tough job to make people let them know that he does understand what they go through. if he can do that, he'll have a good night. if he can't, i don't think the zingers are going to matter. because big problems require big solutions not bumper sticker answers. >> of course we know the relationship between white house and labor has not always been rosy over the last four years. is there something the president also needs to say to impress you? >> again, it's not what he says to me but what really american workers need. and that'
, and a joint investigation by abc news and the food & environment reporting network found more than 100 reported illnesses due to blue/green algae exposure. >> essentially if we don't solve this problem, somebody's going to die. >> reporter: ohio state's dr. jeffrey reuter is the foremost authority on blue/green algae. he says it's a nationwide problem caused by farm fertilizer runoff. the cure, he says, is convincing farmers to carefully fertilize so nutrients stay on the fields and not in the water. >> otherwise these blooms are going to continue to grow. the human health problems that we see are going to increase. >> reporter: assaulting our senses, our economy, and our health. jim avila, abc news, lake petenwell, wisconsin. >> that is nasty stuff. >> oh, that's an understand statement, but the wisconsin department of natural resources says the best way to treat this is naturally, but they say it could take several years to get rid of it completely. in fact, there was a large amount of -- lake erie, almost a third of the surface, covered. >> cut big time into the fishing industry the
environment, even 90 minutes with a skilled moderator, allow them to go at each other, steering the debate, that is one thing. but if it is complete free-for- all, i think the campaign would never risk it. >> in the first debate, i learned afterward, nixon was one of the smartest politicians ever to be vice president, and of course later, president. and he was the most gracious. that did not come across in the debate. why was that? no one seems to have asked that question. was he over-awed by his wealth, his tan? that is why what i want to know. why nixon did not bring that out as much as he did in the first one, in the next three. >> if i could, on the fact checking, one thing that i do that is helpful is to go to multiple fact checking organizations. go to several and get the consensus about what people have to say about the candidate's statements. >> we will go to a question from the studio. >> i have a question for professor mcilwain. i have been intrigued by your academic work, looking at how race influences the way candidates communicate with different audiences. for the first time,
flies critical to both our economy and the national environment. >> the reservoir projects are trying to take the last legally allowed drop of water out of the rivers. we're saying no, stop now. >> now, walkner says what western states need to do is think about conservation, recycling and growth management. but supporters of new reservoirs say while that sounds nice, it's really not realistic when you think about the amount of growth this part of the country is expected to go through and is going through now, bill. >> bill: back to this letter. has the governor heard back from the president regarding that letter? >> we reached out to the governor's office today about that specific letter and we were told that they might not get back to us for a while because of the debate going on today. but i can tell that you recently in a drought conference, the governor did bring up the fact that we could be looking at eight, ten to 20 million people in the future in this state alone and ultimately we could be looking at a capacity problem in what the water storage here can handle. bill. >> bill:
's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind me about what the president is going to say tonight and what mitt romney is going to say tonight. i think the rules actually favor president obama because there are almost no rules. they are going to do two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax plan, he's still hi
didn't wait for washington nor international treaty and environment or anything like this. we just moved forward. i remember washington was never that enthusiastic about infrastructure. you know how much we are falling behind in infrastructure nationwide compared to the rest of the world. but we in california we said yes to infrastructure. and now we can see construction in schools and roads and affordable housing and other projects all over the state of california. washington said no to stem cell research. imagine, we said yes. and we invested $3 billion. as a matter of fact, right here at u.s.c. we have one of the great centers for staple-cell research, and they are drawing money for those $3 billion for their center. washington said no to our landmark climb change law. million solar roofs, list goes on and on. we said yes, yes and yes. and we moved forward. some of the most powerful solutions come from local government and also grass roots. people power. not from washington or paris or moscow or beijing. finally, i learned quickly that a post partisan way of governing is the mos
at at an environment with a total void of leader help in washington. we are still in rough waters right now. >> greta: you know, i suspect as much as we wait around for the numbers every month and pay attention to them. i have a track here, which -- who did well? no change for teens, blacks and hispanics, but adult women special white did better. i pay attention to that. but as much as i micro-examine this, the question is, as the voter looksarn, do i have a job do my friends have a job? does my family have a job? am i about to lose my house? what's the future? there is a difference between the number crunchers and the people. >> if the neighbor has lost his job, you are in a recession when you lose your job, you're in a depression. the reality is that people talk to their neighbors and friends and see what is going on in the real world. >> greta: health care. you have 100 employees and you have noticed about your health care. >> we are headquartered in new york with 100 employees and our health care rates are going up 19% next year. so the other shoe has dropped. historically, they have gone up 5 or
to person contact. >> it appears to be a particular mold, aspergelis, perez reresenr environment, fairly ubiquitous. we broeathe spores they don't make sick. >> now, suspected as the source of the steroid medicine voluntarily suspended operations. >>> a philadelphia police officer seen on video punching a woman in the face will soon be out of a job. the city's top cop, announced that he is firing lieutenant jonathan josie saying it is difficult to justify his actions during a post parade street party over the weekend. thecuffed after being knocked to the ground. charges have been dropped. >>> ashton kutcher has punked plenty of people with great comedic effect. the center of a hoax, yesterday, which had nobody laughing. police and s.w.a.t. teams, converged on his hollywood home after some one reported a burglary was under way. nothing going on. kutcher wasn't even home at the time. >> received a teletype, apparently from a deaf person. there was a call of shots being fired. and the officers got there, obviously no shots being fired. all employees of the residence. doing what they were su
did you find out? >> we found out that really it's a natural airplane environment. we could see a real crash very different from a laboratory. we were able to collect the full event that will help design seats and interiors for safer aircraft in the future. gregg: what happened to some of the dummies on the inside? >> the front of the airplane was completely destroyed, the nose was destroyed. gregg: really. >> yep. and then a little bit further back there was potential for severe injury. in the middle moderate injury, and in the tail you would have been good if you were wearing a seatbelt. >> since the front of the plane basically got blown-out does that mean the fatal seats were what, rows one through seven in. >> yeah, about row 4 to row 10 was completely destroyed. gregg: wow. and seat 7a was catapulted straight out of the plane? >> like you might see in this kind of thing there was a giant debris field, several of the rows spread across the desert. gregg: some of the dummies were seatbelted but seated straight up, right? >> we had a brace-position dummy, some in the normal sit up p
final moments. s to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... when we got married. i had three kids. and she became the full time mother of three. it was soccer, and ballet, and cheerleading, and baseball. those years were crazy. so, as we go into this next phase, you know, a big part of it for us is that there isn't anything on the schedule. >>> just a quick warning here, before we show you and tell you this next story, some of the images you're about to see are tough to look at, if you have little kids in the room, might be a good time to get them to turn away. a brutal attack that killed 25 people at this nigerian university may have been an insid
said your plan will kill 700,000 jobs. i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. make one more point. >> let him answer the taxes thing for a moment. mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before. >> about the idea that, in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working, getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're not spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path of spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to growth with more money coming in. >> go ahead, mr. president. you are saying, in order to get the job done it's got to be balanced. >> if we are serious,
producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. 8:00 out west and you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. just about half an hour ago, president obama and republican challenger mitt romney wrapped up a 90-minute debate that covered not at all a wide range of topics. limited to domestic politics. we knew tonight but basically these guys talked about sunday morning beltway show favorites like "similarson bowls" and medicare and social security but left out a lot of other big domestic issues that have been major political issues including immigration, women's rights, specifically with issue
two factors at play. there's been the environment of the country, the large number of people that think we're on the wrong track. and the perceptions and images of the candidates. each had an advantage. what happened last night was the images of the candidates, mitt romney evened that ground. when that happens, people say, well, since they're both roughly even, we're off on a wrong track, why wouldn't i take a chance on the new guy? that's the difficult side that president obama has to get. he has to turn this around. >> he has two more coming up. donna, you're in the room with president obama today. what do you tell him? >> mr. president, get a good night's sleep, have that anniversary champagne, but guess what? you have two more debates. look up and give it to mitt romney. also, talk about big bird next time. >> thanks very much. >>> thanks so much, george. it was a huge night online for the debate, as well. the event was exploding, literally, on social media, setting a new record on twitter. bianna golodryga is here to break down all the numbers. the most tweeted about eve
be great to die in to -- to dive into the protection of our environments. we will not dive into it to the level we should, and romney will not talk about how he is such a green governor in massachusetts, which definitely is a foot lot. >> tomorrow with the domestic policy debate. >> i was going to international affairs, but it is domestic policy. they are not going to discuss how we can get african- americans more jobs. they will talk in general about jobs, since we need jobs more, we should have more attention on its. >> in a sad remembrance of the 400th murder in chicago over the last couple days, we will not talk about the tie between youth unemployment numbers and how it has impacted the dropout rates and the crimes we're seeing in these urban environments. >> i would like to see an honest conversation about collective bargaining. >> i like that one. , we talk about that new small business economy, but african- americans, our economy is not a mom and pop, it is a mom or pop. we need to make sure it is addressing the mom and or pops our communities. , hate speech and its
that it's an a austere environment and it's not safe. my answer to that is you do what you have to to make sure that it is safe so you can conduct your investigation. you ask your guys on the ground what is needed to secure that area and you do it immediately. to me there is no other acceptable course of action regarding it. martha: what do you think -- the more you learn about the details of that night, and that your two former colleagues were half a mile away in another location, and that this action apparently moved from the consulate where ambassador stevens was to the area half a mile away where they were and they got drawn into this. what does that tell you from your experience? >> from an operative's perspective it absolutely tells me there was a number of individuals utilized in the attack, without question, in my opinion, it was preplanned and it needs to be coordinated at a petty high level. so it's not something that is easy to pull off based on the fact that there was multiple locations, good distances apart, for sure that they had pretty reliable intelligence on what was going
environment. what's great after that after you come out with that horrible feeling every day that follows you say it was a bad day but at least i didn't have to vote. i don't feel good. i don't. i literally never in my life --& >> have you felt -- >> felt good about some of it. really? these are the choices? isn't there a kill me now choice? >> who is your favorite comedian. who makes you life? >> a lot of them. you know, kathleen madigan is probably a great female comic. there's, you know, louis seekay. a lot of talented people. it's amazing. >> good luck on ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald >>> good morning, everyone. 8:55 your time. i'm frank mallicoat. get you caught up with some of the cbs 5 headlines now. >>> san mateo county sheriff's deputy shot and wounded a man acting strangely and laying on the caltrain tracks in downtown san jose. the rush hour confrontation last night disrupted caltrain service in the area for quite a while. police say the man was armed with rocks and possibly a railroad spike and threatened a deputy who shot him. >>> police in vall
about cancer-causing items in our environment? chemicals known as perks from our dry cleaner can be dangerous. >> if you have no choice, when you bring home your dry cleaning, remove the plastic bag. let the clothes air out before putting them in your closet or on your body. >> reporter: empowering us all to take back some control from this devastating disease. for "good morning america," amy robach, abc news, new york. >> good information right there. >>> coming up, what would you do if you saw a father buying alcohol for underaged kids? >>> also, two women, one big ambush makeover. wait until you see how they look now. [ ma announcer ] who will raise taxes on the middle class? according to an independe nt, non-partisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class by $4,000. the same organization says the plan from mitt romney and common sense conservatives is "not a tax hike on the middle class." want proof? read the non-partisan study for yourself at af merican.co. obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four me years. i'm mitt romney and i
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